Where did the DCE Superman come from?

Recently my friends on twitter sent me this page from Jim Lee’s blog.  It is dated December 20, 2004.  This is 6 years after he sold Wildstorm to DC Comics and 6 years before he became co-publisher of DC Entertainment.

Here is the interview.

Fans of Superman know of Brian Azzarello’s “For Tomorrow” story drawn by Jim Lee.  They are especially familiar with Superman embracing his wife, Lois Lane in the air.   If you saw the cover for Justice League #12 in the new 52, you know Jim Lee used that panel to replace Lois Lane with Wonder Woman.

Despite the fact Azz didn’t like the Kent marriage, he never allowed the fauxmance in his new 52 Wonder Woman 3 year run.  Clark/Superman was neither mentioned nor appeared in that book.

Here are some excerpts from the interview which shows what Jim Lee thinks of Superman and Clark Kent.  Please read the interview in it’s entirety to garner your own insights and opinions.

Why we got a battling alien without human connections:

I think when you talk about pacing…yer really talking about action…that some fans feel there isn’t enough action…but there’s plenty of drama.

Let me say I wasn’t a big fan of the Superman as Everyman take. That he is like you and me but just purer or more noble. I think that takes the mystique out of what he truly is–which is stranger from an alien planet who feels at home but isn’t. Like an immigrant may feel…like me heh.

Clark Kent is the Everyman part of Superman. — me

How can a man who flies nearly as fast as the speed of light and been to other dimensions relate to a guy like me? Superman in real life would be bored sitting around waiting for Lois to cook him some bacon for breakfast–I know that sounds sexist…it’s a joke–work with me…

Clark Kent is how readers relate to the superbeing from another planet. — creators such as Mark Waid and others.

The one thing I would change if I had that ability to go back in time and undo things is…I wouldn’t have Clark and Lois be married. That said, I think you can still do some kickass stories with them married, but the triangular relationship between Superman, Clark and Lois was too good of one to toss.

The triangle for two didn’t have to be an adversarial one as Azz and Lee contend.  There was an organic progression (oops comic creator speak) of their relationship when Lois knew and Clark confessed.  Clark/Superman evolved to show introspection as well as his neverending battle.   Thus, adding to the character, not detracting from it. – me

The interviewer Kilgore T:

Personally, I don’t care for Lois Lane. TOO manly for me. Lois is the masculine part of the relationship. Superman, the nurturer, is the female. It doesn’t work.

Many fans thought this aspect of the most powerful being in the universe made it work completely and successfully.  — me

Lee’s response:

I agree. I never had the hots for her either…but we hope to change yer mind in 212.

which had the panel between Superman and Lois that he used for the Justice League #12 cover.

From 2005 to 2008, Jim Lee drew All Star Batman and Robin (which he never finished).  In that story, Superman was with Wonder Woman as they are in all of Frank Miller stories.  Since it was a previous Wildstorm insider who told us of supers with supers – perhaps the idea of the fauxmance was firmly planted and nurtured in Mr. Lee’s mind during this time.

Remember Jim Lee became co-publisher of DC Entertainment in early 2010 and the editorial retreat was in October, 2010, when the new 52 was created.  That means he had/has the power to decide what version of Superman readers get.  New 52 Superman is very much action oriented. Lee’s wreckage and destruction Supes.  And Lois, who did not raise his body temperature, was out as well as the marriage and any courtship.  He did make his and Kilgore’s idea of Superman so.

Dudebro comics!

Some creators have spoken a disdain for the internet.  Maybe because what gets put on the web, stays on the web.

 

 

 

 

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May 31, 2015. Tags: , , , , , , , . Baudy's Reviews, BaudyBlahBlahBlah, Lois Lane, Superman.

2 Comments

  1. Jyger85 replied:

    Man, I like Jim Lee’s artwork just fine (for the most part), but he REALLY shouldn’t have been given the control he was.

  2. baudyhallee replied:

    Thanks for comment. I would have to agree with you. With the order numbers being as low as they were pre-52, having Jim Lee’s version doesn’t seem to be helping the Man of Steel at all. The persistence in removing Clark Kent (farm boy, journalist) and Lois Lane from the narrative is the absolute worst!

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